Breaking News! Hell Freezes Over: Podcaster, Joe Rogan, Refuses to Buy Trump’s Bullshit Excuses About Epstein Files

Nicolle Wallace: Joe Rogan refuses to ‘buy the BS’ Epstein excuses peddled by Trump

Wallace said the podcaster refuses to rescue the president “from a crisis of his own making.”

Aug. 21, 2025, 3:21 PM EDT By Allison Detzel

Nothing short of extraordinary’: See Nicolle Wallace react to new Epstein ruling

Aug 20, 2025 #jeffreyepstein #epsteinfiles #trump Voting Rights Attorney and Founder of Democracy Docket Marc Elias, former Acting Assistant Attorney General for National Security at the Justice Department Mary McCord, and MSNBC Senior Contributing Editor Michele Norris join Nicolle Wallace to react to a new ruling from a judge on the DOJ’s request to unseal the Epstein transcripts and exhibits.

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Podcast host Joe Rogan has continued to hammer Donald Trump and his administration over their handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case. On Tuesday, the influential commentator slammed Trump over his repeated claims that the scandal is a “hoax” that’s been “perpetrated by the Democrats.”

“It’s certainly not a hoax if Ghislaine Maxwell is in jail, too,” Rogan said. “She’s in jail for sex trafficking, but the question is, to who? You have to be sex trafficking to someone in order to go to jail, right? So how’s that work?”

The “Joe Rogan Experience” host said Americans were “never gonna forget” Trump’s response to the growing scandal and warned Republicans that the issue could come back to bite them in future elections.

“The problem is, do we have any power? What do we do? You know, what do you do?” Rogan asked. “You definitely can change the way you vote.”

On Wednesday’s “Deadline: White House,” Nicolle Wallace underscored the importance of the popular podcaster’s reminder.

“On the scale of momentous and impossible to ignore, Joe Rogan reminding his millions of listeners that they can change the people they vote for is a clear sign that Joe Rogan is not going to become Lindsey Graham (T-SC) in this story,” Wallace said, referring to attempts by the South Carolina senator and close Trump ally to downplay the controversy..

“He’s refusing to buy the BS being peddled by the Trump White House and rescue Donald Trump from a crisis of his own making: his botched handling of the Jeffrey Epstein scandal,” she said.

Wallace also discussed what she called a “significant” new court ruling in the case. On Wednesday, a third federal judge denied a motion from the Justice Department to unseal grand jury transcripts. By doing so, Wallace said the judge had thrown cold water on Trump “and his bid to appear transparent and quell this political firestorm.”

Watch Wallace’s full analysis in the clip at the top of the page.

Allison Detzel is an editor/producer for MSNBC Digital.


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